Help needed on Ranger/Rogue Build

[Shreder]

I'm a bit new to build creating and have been scouring over information all morning/afternoon. I am looking to make a stealth/sneak attack dual wield character. I have tried a lot of variations on paper and I am looking for some more opinions.

Currently I have:
Rogue 11
Ranger 11
Shadowdancer 1

I have tried a lot of combinations. I initially had Assassin but it seems like it overlaps a lot with Rogue making it kind of worthless. I want Hide in Plain Sight, I will more than likely be a Tiefling so that removes wanting Darkness. I am not sure how useful Invisibility and Greater Invisibility are, or Ghostly Visage. Poison Resistance seems like a complete waste.

Any thoughts? Reasons for taking more or less in either Ranger or Rogue. Another prestige class to fill the last 7 levels? I could really use any help or insight. This build would be for the OC and MotB. Maybe SoZ; not sure yet.

Thanks in advance.

[kgambit]

This is always a good place to start:

http://nwn.bioware.com/guilds_regist...6 5&gid=14504

Here's two possibilities:

http://nwn.bioware.com/guilds_regist...18&gid=1450 4

http://nwn.bioware.com/guilds_regist...25&gid=1450 4

[Shreder]

The 2nd build is closer to what I am looking for but putting more than 11 into either Rogue or Ranger seems like such a waste. Getting to 13 in Rogue would be helpful for another 1d6 Sneak Attack, but then you lose that BAB point. 13 Ranger would just give Camouflage; to be honest I am not sure how useful that is.

[kgambit]

Originally Posted by Shreder

The 2nd build is closer to what I am looking for but putting more than 11 into either Rogue or Ranger seems like such a waste. Getting to 13 in Rogue would be helpful for another 1d6 Sneak Attack, but then you lose that BAB point. 13 Ranger would just give Camouflage; to be honest I am not sure how useful that is.

With HiPs you won't need camo, and level 13 rogue also gives you an extra feat. Have you thought about a swashbuckler rogue combo?

[Shreder]

I did at the start. It seemed like I would be a bit feat starved. I also figured that Favored Enemy, Mastered Dual Wield Spec, and Toughness was a better than Weapon Finesse, Insightful Strike, Mobility, and Improved Flanking since I tried to use Swashbuckler 8. It seems like a trade off of damage vs. defense between the two.

[kgambit]

Originally Posted by Shreder

I did at the start. It seemed like I would be a bit feat starved. I also figured that Favored Enemy, Mastered Dual Wield Spec, and Toughness was a better than Weapon Finesse, Insightful Strike, Mobility, and Improved Flanking since I tried to use Swashbuckler 8. It seems like a trade off of damage vs. defense between the two.

You are definitely going to want to have weapon finesse anyway - since your rogue is going to be dex based I presume. And you have to have dodge and Mobility to get the shadowdancer prc.

Mastered Dual Wield Spec? You must mean Perfect two weapon fighting

[Shreder]

Hah, sorry yes. Ranger 11 will give me Master Two Weapon Fighting for free and then I can take Perfect @ 20+. Weapon Finesse will be my first feat. Swashbuckler would give it to me for free allowing me to take Two Weapon Fighting earlier but it really just reverses the order. The OC gives you level 2 for free so it really isn't an issue.

How about:

Rogue 13
Ranger 11
Shadowdancer 1
Neverwinter Nine 5

Only problem is this leaves me @ BAB 25. I am also not sure how useful All-Out Assault is.

[kgambit]

I might consider filling out the last 6 or seven levels with shadowdancer - look at the feats that you get for free at levels 5 and 7 and how nicely they blend with the rogue feats. with a rogue 12 / shadowdancer 7 / ranger 11 you get the two weapon feats / slippery mind / defensive roll / improved evasion plus

or you can go rogue 13 / shadowdancer 6 and pick up the same set of feats taking slippery mind at rogue 13 with an extra 1d6 of damage and the loss of 2 hps (OH NO!).

[Shreder]

The only downside to do that is it seems like Rogue and Shadowdancer overlap so much that it is almost a waste.

[kgambit]

I think they overlap on evasion and uncanny dodge for sure but the others only overlap depending on what you take for the rogue bonus feats. It's not an ideal match but it's not terrible either.