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When will it come out?
And what could it be about? Does an Add-On continue the original story, or will it be something new? What do you think could happen there?
Me, I don't know, but I can't wait for it!
McPhearsom
12.08.06, 12:11
It'll likely be a HotU type expansion pack, adding epic levels past 20 with a new story.
i am also quite sure that there will be an add-on. but most likely not before christmas :P
jokes aside...i do believe it will come out in a year or something ... definatly after summer.
as for the content. i do not know. i hope something very epic and something with the underdark ... also i really would love going back to waterdeep ... i just love the city :)
cheers
McPhearsom
12.08.06, 16:48
If they work on EA's product strategy then they'll release the add-on within a month, forget about the original game still being unfinished and already be working on the sequel. Additional/missing content will be released as 'booster' packs instead of free patches.
i am also quite sure that there will be an add-on. but most likely not before christmas :P
jokes aside...i do believe it will come out in a year or something ... definatly after summer.
as for the content. i do not know. i hope something very epic and something with the underdark ... also i really would love going back to waterdeep ... i just love the city :)
cheers
Agreed... I would also love to have some of my older companions rejoin me, such as Deekin, Sharwyn, and Tomi Undergallows. :D
As for you McPhearsom...you have a VERY pessimistic outlook, lol. But I will agree... the NWN franchise is in much better hands with Bioware, NOT lead by Atari or Obsidian.:mad:
McPhearsom
12.09.06, 04:22
I know my outlook does seem to be perhaps more negative than most but i'm thinking in a realistic fashion. I'd love NWN2 to be everything I want, for there to be no bugs and the game to be 'perfect', but it isn't, and nothing i've seen from either Obsidian or Atari convinces me this will change in the future. I just hope it will improve enough for the good points to outweigh the bad, the only reason I still have an interest in the game after completing it is that I see there is potential, just like the original game had, there's no need to give up all hope... yet :(
I know my outlook does seem to be perhaps more negative than most but i'm thinking in a realistic fashion. I'd love NWN2 to be everything I want, for there to be no bugs and the game to be 'perfect', but it isn't, and nothing i've seen from either Obsidian or Atari convinces me this will change in the future. I just hope it will improve enough for the good points to outweigh the bad, the only reason I still have an interest in the game after completing it is that I see there is potential, just like the original game had, there's no need to give up all hope... yet :(
I agree, I expected much more after the release date being put back so many times. It is, however, still an exceptional game. I just hope they add more in-depth character developement and more stuff to do on the side. :D
as long as it contains more character development/romances/ an (even more) engrossing storyline I'm going to buy it without question :)
Sicar Eneco
12.14.06, 16:03
No need to be all negative. :p
If I remember correctly, the original NWN wasn't exactly a very exiting RPG if it wasn't for the modules and later on the expansions. I'm quite sure Obsidian can do the same -if they keep a lill more attention to bugs- and make some nice expansion packs. Heck, in my opinion the NWN2 OC was already better then any RPG game I've played in a while.
We'll have to wait and see I guess, but I think they did a decent job already. I'm sure they can do it again.
arathalion
12.18.06, 10:59
wow, you are all looking to soon in my opinion, don't think there will be an expansion until early 08 at the earliest.
ball lightning
12.20.06, 02:33
wow, you are all looking to soon in my opinion, don't think there will be an expansion until early 08 at the earliest.
I think it'll come out june/july '07, but they might decide to go the way of Oblivion (which i think is better) and sell mods in a expansion pack. I would prefer that BioWare didn't do this.
arathalion
12.21.06, 06:50
how long did it take for SoU to come out for nwn?
its a game, the only game company that realeses its games when it says its going to is id software, and thats only cause they refuse to put down a realese date untill it is finished, so there arnt delays.
how long did it take for SoU to come out for nwn?
its a game, the only game company that realeses its games when it says its going to is id software, and thats only cause they refuse to put down a realese date untill it is finished, so there arnt delays.
Almost exactly 1 year after the original NWN was released.
arathalion
12.21.06, 07:07
hmm, i seem to remember it being longer...
No need to be all negative. :p
If I remember correctly, the original NWN wasn't exactly a very exiting RPG if it wasn't for the modules and later on the expansions. I'm quite sure Obsidian can do the same -if they keep a lill more attention to bugs- and make some nice expansion packs. Heck, in my opinion the NWN2 OC was already better then any RPG game I've played in a while.
We'll have to wait and see I guess, but I think they did a decent job already. I'm sure they can do it again.
Agreed. Now they can focus on improving everything and doing some breathtaking storyline :D
Well, despite the bugs and unbalanced skills, etc. NWN 1 and Expansions brought me much lack of sleep and tons of coffee to my body :D
I'm hoping Modules and Expansions for this NWN2 shall bring me laughter to no ends ... like how Mincs and his space hamster did ... ;)
Well, despite the bugs and unbalanced skills, etc. NWN 1 and Expansions brought me much lack of sleep and tons of coffee to my body :D
I'm hoping Modules and Expansions for this NWN2 shall bring me laughter to no ends ... like how Mincs and his space hamster did ... ;)
Every hamster has his day! *squeak*
ball lightning
12.21.06, 19:43
Agreed. Now they can focus on improving everything and doing some breathtaking storyline :D
And hopefully they do, not just make a not very good story like SoU. HotU was a great expansion which i spent more time on then the main NWN1 module.
Well, despite the bugs and unbalanced skills, etc. NWN 1 and Expansions brought me much lack of sleep and tons of coffee to my body :D
I'm hoping Modules and Expansions for this NWN2 shall bring me laughter to no ends ... like how Mincs and his space hamster did ... ;)
Or just listening to Edwin's soundset, or Jan Jansen's conversations with Valygar, Anomen and Haer'dalis... that gnome sure got them all! Or Haer'dalis's line "maybe we could sell Jaheira?"
And hopefully they do, not just make a not very good story like SoU. HotU was a great expansion which i spent more time on then the main NWN1 module.
SoU didn't keep me till the end and that's kind of bad. Yes, HotU has a much better story. But NwN2 didn't fail my expectations, in fact, it surpassed them, so I figure I trust those people on not messing it up.
well, i'd guess the expancion will be out at late 07...
as for the original nwn2 storyline, although i havent finished it yet, it is quite decent.... Okay I admit the "gather the pieces of a mighty sword, reforge it and save the world" story has been told a thousand times, but the characters is what makes it all worth it.... and how they complicate even the stupidiest task (find 5 statues....)
what im looking forward in the next addon, isnt really a supreme storyline (cuz no stories will ever be as good as whatever I can imagine, hehehe) but more companion characters (and all the character development that goes with it) and serious improvement on the crafting system... theres so few stuff you can craft that it gets to my nerves...
I really enjoy playing the game, otherwise I wouldn't be here. But I think they can hold off on the expansions for a while. They have an awful lot of bugs to get out of the original first. And I would rather see that done first. For all of us, I hope they don't do anything like Bethesda did with Oblivion. Selling those plug-ins, which, as far as I'm concerned, are about as worthless as uyou can get. Being an old ES fan I hate to see it. And I would hate to see BioWare do it. Keeping my fingers crossed.
arathalion
01.02.07, 02:42
im sure they can see the amount of hate that bethesda got, and im sure they can see how much of the fan base they lost. dont think they will make the same mistake
I really enjoy playing the game, otherwise I wouldn't be here. But I think they can hold off on the expansions for a while. They have an awful lot of bugs to get out of the original first. And I would rather see that done first. For all of us, I hope they don't do anything like Bethesda did with Oblivion. Selling those plug-ins, which, as far as I'm concerned, are about as worthless as uyou can get. Being an old ES fan I hate to see it. And I would hate to see BioWare do it. Keeping my fingers crossed.
I agree with you 100%
Was a very big fan of Morrowind but Oblivion was just another "mainstreamed" game, in other words a major letdown.
arathalion
01.02.07, 06:33
imo oblivion gets 10 for quality and 0 for quantity.
the agatha christy like murder quest in the assasins guild.
as an ex oblivion fan, i'd say its quite the opposite, more like a 5 in quality and a 20 in quantity
there is a fuckton of stuff to do, endless dungeons and a hell of a lot of sidequests.... but, they all end up in going to a dungeon and killing everything, retrieving an item and voila, you saved the day. I said 5 in quality because of the beautiful graphics and very nice gameplay.... too bad it was all wasted on over simplistic tasks and an uninteresting main story
on the other hand, nwn2 , i'd say, is more like quality 8, quantity 4
the character development is genious; the story although it takes a while, ends up taking hold of you (even though you just gotta reforge a sword n kill the bad guy) and lastly, the d&d 3.5 ruleset was almost perfectly adapted (exceptions are the rest thing....).
on the other hand, the mayor downfalls on the quality area are the rather sad graphics for the specs it asks, and on the quantity pov, obviously the lack of plentiful sidequests other than "oh no i cant find X, he is lost at Y, go find him and tell me wth is up to him".
arathalion
01.02.07, 10:24
if you go in for that
you see i was talking about the quests as the game, not you running around aimlessly killing stuff.
hence the 10, some of those quests where brilliantly thought out (unlike my rating, i was just using it for emphasis). i already mentioned the dark brotherhoods quest with the manor and the killing everyone without them knowing who the killer was.
i said 0 in quantity as there was very little to do. the world was tiny... yes it was supposedly bigger than morrowind, but morrowind was full of stuff to do (other than dungeon bashing), i never felt like i finished that game, where as oblivion ended as soon as the faction quests did, as there are verry little side quests out and about, that and the little unmarked villages... i found maybe 3 of them, they didnt have any point, there was nothing to do in them...
One thing that Oblivion did do was this. It created a renewed interest in Morrowind. All the new people to the ES games, heard people like me say, it isn't as good as Morrowind. So they tried it, and are playing it.
After the successful release of NWN2, I am quite sure that Atari is bugging the heck out of Obsidian to get an expansion pack out. Recall there was only a year between the successful release of KotOR and the release of KotOR2.
What I at least hope is that you will be able to go past level 20. I really believe level 20 is not far enough. The rest, I dont really mind actually, there is enough variability and if they stick to the good storytelling (which they indeed seem to have forgotten while producing the SoU story) then I will be a happy fellow.
Well i would have to say that i have enjoyed the game so far but was a little disapointed with the lvl cap at lvl 20. I was kinda hoping that they would have had the epic lvls included with the game. But on the other hand i did like having the prestige classes available with the core game unlike the first one where you did not get them until you got one of the expansions. Mainly i would like to just be able to reach the epic levels for character progression.
arathalion
01.04.07, 22:26
really people, you should feel lucky that you are getting to level 20. we need more games like SoU in that respect, games that dont make it to the lvl cap.
honestly, i have never made it above lvl 12 in an adnd game. and in the nwn campaign i had a character that finished at lvl 18.
Yip, I mean, what kind of rule limits you to level 20?? It's kinda stupid. It's OK if the game is designed so that you can't go much over that even if you wanted to, but still, the *cap*, I don't like it.
Oh, great D&D ancestors, is there ever going to be another game as perfect as Baldur's Gate (2) ? (OK, there should have been some limit even there, but not one I often reached)
That's why add-ons and continuing games are cool (if they are good). I don't like leveling from level 1 to 20 in the same game! (except for KotOR, heh, no complaint there)
Sicar Eneco
01.08.07, 15:00
I've never been much for the whole concept of 'levels' anyway. We don't have to do the calculations ourselves, so why limit ourselves with a system that simulates progression when we can do way better without them. No, I don't like Elder Scrolls-styled stuff either. Kinda interested in what Alganon (http://alganon.qol.com/index.php) is going to try. Then again, I don't really have an extremly long history in the RPG genre so don't mind me.
Also, recent trends seem to be releasing add-ons quite soon after the original ships (Quite soon in game development standards, then) which will include all kinds of nice features. Sadly, those features are things that could have been easily added into the original already but because of either 'lack of time' (story of my life) or smart marketing such things never really make it.
Still, I have faith in Obsidian -like I mentioned before in this thread-.
[fake British accent] They'll make it through if anyone can! [/fake British accent]
I've never been much for the whole concept of 'levels' anyway. We don't have to do the calculations ourselves, so why limit ourselves with a system that simulates progression when we can do way better without them. No, I don't like Elder Scrolls-styled stuff either. Kinda interested in what Alganon (http://alganon.qol.com/index.php) is going to try. Then again, I don't really have an extremly long history in the RPG genre so don't mind me.
Still you do have a point. It is a nice idea indeed!
Given the SoU-type ending, and given the HotU strongly recommended starting at Lvl 20, I feel you will be able to continue your NWN2 character, with, I hope, at least some of the NPCs.
I hope Deekin comes back. I really enjoyed him as a character as he more than anyone GREW through the modules from a timid little lizard to quite the asskicker with wings!
Also the possibility for romance and perhaps more options for female characters (granted that most players will probably be male and choose male characters, however I feel kind of alienated sometimes for choosing to play a female character (they have such pretty curves!))
I would also like to see more combat balance. I'm not sure if anyone else found that sometimes a fight would be extremely hard with all your characters killed off quite quickly (i'm thinking particularly of the final fight) and then sometimes you reload and, using the same strategy, kill them off without losing much health at all. Doesn't make sense.
I'd also like to see more side quests and map exploration (baldurs gate was pretty much a perfect exaplme of how this should be done).
Not asking for much then ;)
I hope Deekin comes back. I really enjoyed him as a character as he more than anyone GREW through the modules from a timid little lizard to quite the asskicker with wings!
Also the possibility for romance and perhaps more options for female characters (granted that most players will probably be male and choose male characters, however I feel kind of alienated sometimes for choosing to play a female character (they have such pretty curves!))
I would also like to see more combat balance. I'm not sure if anyone else found that sometimes a fight would be extremely hard with all your characters killed off quite quickly (i'm thinking particularly of the final fight) and then sometimes you reload and, using the same strategy, kill them off without losing much health at all. Doesn't make sense.
I'd also like to see more side quests and map exploration (baldurs gate was pretty much a perfect exaplme of how this should be done).
Not asking for much then ;)QFT. You fail, howeve, to mention the ultimate female character screw-up: in KotOR2, if you play female, my favorite character, the Handmaiden, doesn't even join your party. That's what's kept me from playing that thoough as a female.
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