Bardess
11.29.06, 15:36
So, I completed NwN2 playing a chaotic evil female char (now started playing with cha.good to redeem myself :) ) . Casavir hated me, but warned me not to trust Bishop, as well as that ranger Malin did. So, I, like, actually liked it a lot when Bishop betrayed me even as I thought I had high influence with him (knew it wouldn't matter).
But in that conversation before the fight with Black Garius at one point I get an Influence:Failiure with him. Only after that I get a success, when I mock him about being Garius' lackey. Since before it you have options with bluff, taunt, intimidate, diplomacy and another diplomacy if you're female (like, "sometimes two people caring for each other can be strength", or something like that), I wonder if the ending is different if you make it there. Don't think how much ranks in those skills you have actually matters, since I had over 30 in diplomacy and still failed. Seems to me it's just influence.
Anyways, after that Bishop left the fight, I won, met the King of Shadows (that magnifficent being... got me fall in love at first sight), he invited me to join him, I said why not, and Bishop emerged from somewhere again. It's OK if he agreed to kill all of my party members and was happy to do so (I expected as much), and I loved that line regarding cutting down a certain paladin. But after that? I get treated as a male char! Bishop says nothing special, in the epilogue the narrator refers to me as a "he" a thousand times! I even get to know some thing or other about Elanee (being alive! and leading travelers), whom I killed first of all, back in the Mere! Why mess up such a great game with this... messy... ending?
I ask just what happens if you succeed persuading Bishop at that point where I failed. Does he say the same line no matter of your choice? Is there anything new to be said about the "two people caring for each other" line? Or does he simply leave the figth anyway?
If so, I'm mad at you, Bioware! >:( (yeah, I won't change that to Obsidian... lol)
But in that conversation before the fight with Black Garius at one point I get an Influence:Failiure with him. Only after that I get a success, when I mock him about being Garius' lackey. Since before it you have options with bluff, taunt, intimidate, diplomacy and another diplomacy if you're female (like, "sometimes two people caring for each other can be strength", or something like that), I wonder if the ending is different if you make it there. Don't think how much ranks in those skills you have actually matters, since I had over 30 in diplomacy and still failed. Seems to me it's just influence.
Anyways, after that Bishop left the fight, I won, met the King of Shadows (that magnifficent being... got me fall in love at first sight), he invited me to join him, I said why not, and Bishop emerged from somewhere again. It's OK if he agreed to kill all of my party members and was happy to do so (I expected as much), and I loved that line regarding cutting down a certain paladin. But after that? I get treated as a male char! Bishop says nothing special, in the epilogue the narrator refers to me as a "he" a thousand times! I even get to know some thing or other about Elanee (being alive! and leading travelers), whom I killed first of all, back in the Mere! Why mess up such a great game with this... messy... ending?
I ask just what happens if you succeed persuading Bishop at that point where I failed. Does he say the same line no matter of your choice? Is there anything new to be said about the "two people caring for each other" line? Or does he simply leave the figth anyway?
If so, I'm mad at you, Bioware! >:( (yeah, I won't change that to Obsidian... lol)