show stopper bug, spoilers included as well

[Pint!!!]

Good day,

I have all current updates and MotB installed. Running on win xp 64 with quad core cpu with all current drivers for all my hardware, which is a long list.

My bug is this. After the (horribly done) cut scene where nasher looses the fight at High cliff (or it could of been that other fort) Sir navel comes tells me what happened, Then when I speak to him again he says ammon jerro has left, according to every walk through I have found (trying to figure out what I did wrong only to find out that its just bugged) Aldonon should of told me he left and bishop offers to track him down, this isnt happening, well you should have the option to not follow ammon, but this doesnt happen either, sooo basicly I cant do anything, I cant start the seige I cant tell Sir navel that the fort is ready, I cant go follow ammon to the demon fight at the farm, fairly stuck, if there is a hot fix, or a debug way of fixing this I would appreciate info on it, I HAVE DONE ALL OTHER OPTIONS TO FIX with nothing, my previous saved game file is apparently not early enough to avoid kicking this bug into affect as I have tried everything to keep it from happening, (icluding dumping ALL npc's and going back to the keep to initiate the dialog alone.) My saved game file is right after the fight with the reaver where callum died, in all instances jerro is still in the basement of the keep, and aldonon will not tell me he left, sir navel will not let me kick into seige mode. thanks :eek:


Pint

[kgambit]

Good day,

I have all current updates and MotB installed. Running on win xp 64 with quad core cpu with all current drivers for all my hardware, which is a long list.

My bug is this. After the (horribly done) cut scene where nasher looses the fight at High cliff (or it could of been that other fort) Sir navel comes tells me what happened, Then when I speak to him again he says ammon jerro has left, according to every walk through I have found (trying to figure out what I did wrong only to find out that its just bugged) Aldonon should of told me he left and bishop offers to track him down, this isnt happening, well you should have the option to not follow ammon, but this doesnt happen either, sooo basicly I cant do anything, I cant start the seige I cant tell Sir navel that the fort is ready, I cant go follow ammon to the demon fight at the farm, fairly stuck, if there is a hot fix, or a debug way of fixing this I would appreciate info on it, I HAVE DONE ALL OTHER OPTIONS TO FIX with nothing, my previous saved game file is apparently not early enough to avoid kicking this bug into affect as I have tried everything to keep it from happening, (icluding dumping ALL npc's and going back to the keep to initiate the dialog alone.) My saved game file is right after the fight with the reaver where callum died, in all instances jerro is still in the basement of the keep, and aldonon will not tell me he left, sir navel will not let me kick into seige mode. thanks :eek:


Pint

Sorry for the late reply on this. It took some time to dig thru the wasteland of old posts on the forums to see if there was a solution.

You should talk to Nevalle first, then aldanon, - but it sounds like you might have done things in that order.

Unless you have a MUCH earlier save game (which apparently you don't have), there is not much you can do except to replay from the start. Script failure has been occuring a lot lately in the OC and the most frequent cause appears to be summoned familiars during scene transitions or corrupted .ROS files in saved games. Make sure that you have NO summoned creatures when you try the transition.

You might check this thread out. It's not the same problem, but it does seem to be related.

http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=6055 42&forum=116&sp=15

As you can see, the problem is due to corrupted .ROS files.

[Epirote]

It's either what kgambit suggested, namely a missing or corrupted ROS file, and my prime suspect in this case would be Bishop, since he is required to be present in the conversation to Aldanon, or the script fails to trigger. I had games where I talked to Navalle, entered the keep and was expecting to be confronted immediately with Aldanon, but that did not happen. Then I would walk towards Kana and half way through, I would be teleported back to the entrance to talk to Aldanon. But I never had a game where the conversation would not trigger at all.

[kgambit]

It's either what kgambit suggested, namely a missing or corrupted ROS file, and my prime suspect in this case would be Bishop, since he is required to be present in the conversation to Aldanon, or the script fails to trigger. I had games where I talked to Navalle, entered the keep and was expecting to be confronted immediately with Aldanon, but that did not happen. Then I would walk towards Kana and half way through, I would be teleported back to the entrance to talk to Aldanon. But I never had a game where the conversation would not trigger at all.

The same problem can cause the final battle versus the KoS to go untriggered, except you have a larger population of culprits to choose there: Khelgar, Casavir, Grobnar, Zeeaire and Ammon.